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===[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJDAmBQ1u2g The Star Wars Holiday Special]===
===[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJDAmBQ1u2g The Star Wars Holiday Special]===


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==General Information==
A set of detailed notes researching the original {{{item|prop or costume}}}.
Like many props, the original trilogy bowcasters were built from vintage firearms rented from [http://www.bapty.co.uk Bapty & Company] in the UK.
Like many props, the original trilogy bowcasters were built from vintage firearms rented from [http://www.bapty.co.uk Bapty & Company] in the UK.


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#Jason Joiner says there are no markings of any kind that would indicate the make or model of the base crossbow and that the bowcaster had been stripped of its parts, save for the balls at the end of the limbs. The rubber balls are rotting due to their age.
#Jason Joiner says there are no markings of any kind that would indicate the make or model of the base crossbow and that the bowcaster had been stripped of its parts, save for the balls at the end of the limbs. The rubber balls are rotting due to their age.


====The Horton Magnum====
====The Horton Magnum and Horton Safari Magnum====


#According to kurtyboy of the RPF, the correct base crossbow is the Horton Magnum, a plastic-coated aluminum crossbow with a 125 lbs. recurve that was produced by Horton Crossbows during the 60's and/or 70's. Only a few fans have managed to acquire the crossbow, and comparisons between it and the photos of the screen used bowcaster prove beyond a doubt that it is the correct crossbow, including the bow prod. They occasionally turn up on [http://www.gunstar.co.uk Gunstar] and sell for anywhere from £120 to £1000. Sometimes the crossbow has a sticker identifying it as a Horton product, but not always. The sticker doesn't list the model name. This makes finding it on auction sites difficult; you have to scan through them and look at the photos.
#According to kurtyboy of the RPF, the correct base crossbow is the Horton Magnum, a plastic-coated aluminum crossbow with a 125 lbs. recurve that was produced by Horton Crossbows during the 60's and/or 70's. Only a few fans have managed to acquire the crossbow, and comparisons between it and the photos of the screen used bowcaster prove beyond a doubt that it is the correct crossbow, including the bow prod. They occasionally turn up on [http://www.gunstar.co.uk Gunstar] and sell for anywhere from £120 to £1000. Sometimes the crossbow has a sticker identifying it as a Horton product, but not always. The sticker doesn't list the model name. This makes finding it on auction sites difficult; you have to scan through them and look at the photos.
#In May of 2007 I contacted Bernard Horton and referred him to the bowcaster reference images in this guide. He was convinced that the correct crossbow was a skeleton-stocked, military-style crossbow that he made for the SinglePoint Company that was looking for a product to demonstrate their new scope. It was die cast aluminum and nylon coated, and approximately 12,000 to 15,000 were produced in the early to mid 70's.
==== The Gunmark Crossbow ====
# Eventually, an offshoot of the SinglePoint Company called Gunmark was founded by Bjorn Waktare (a director of SinglePoint) and sold the Horton Magnum crossbows to civilians, mostly in Europe. The crossbows were simply called "Gunmark Crossbows" according to Mr. Horton, and the company was based in Winchester, UK. [http://www.therpf.com/f9/bowcaster-parts-872/index7.html#post340659 Source 1], [http://www.therpf.com/f9/bowcaster-parts-872/index7.html#post354817 Source 2]
==== Lillywhites ====
# [https://www.lillywhites.com/ Lillywhites], a UK sporting goods store, apparently also sold the former Horton Magnum under their own brand as well. [https://www.therpf.com/forums/members/papermaker.211561/ Papermaker] apparently found one several years back. He speculates that the Horton Magnum did not sell particularly well when introduced, and ended up being wholesaled to any number of smaller retailers, who branded it as their own.
==== The Horton Safari Magnum ====
#In 2005 the Horton Safari Magnum was discovered by members of the RPF and has since become a common crossbow for conversions. It is the correct size and shape, but it made of plastic and has a solid stock. It is commonly available on eBay for ~$150.
#In 2005 the Horton Safari Magnum was discovered by members of the RPF and has since become a common crossbow for conversions. It is the correct size and shape, but it made of plastic and has a solid stock. It is commonly available on eBay for ~$150.


====The Horton Monarch Supreme====
====The Horton Monarch Supreme and the Gunmark Crossbow====


#The Horton Safari Magnum is so close to the bowcaster that many became convinced that the bowcaster was built on an earlier Horton Crossbow. After looking at pictures of the bowcaster, Michelle at Horton Crossbows is 95% sure that the bowcaster was a Horton based on certain signature details that are common to Horton crossbows.
#The Horton Safari Magnum is so close to the bowcaster that many became convinced that the bowcaster was built on an earlier Horton Crossbow. After looking at pictures of the bowcaster, Michelle at Horton Crossbows is 95% sure that the bowcaster was a Horton based on certain signature details that are common to Horton crossbows.
#This prompted kurtyboy to contact Horton USA who said that the base crossbow was definitely a very old Horton that was a predecessor to the Safari Magnum. It had an aluminum frame and Horton USA was only in possession of one at the time kurtyboy contacted them and it was not for sale.
#This prompted kurtyboy to contact Horton USA who said that the base crossbow was definitely a very old Horton that was a predecessor to the Safari Magnum. It had an aluminum frame and Horton USA was only in possession of one at the time kurtyboy contacted them and it was not for sale.
#I followed up on this by asking Horton what model crossbow they were referring to, and my message was forwarded to Bernard Horton himself who said it was called the Horton Monarch Supreme and was made in the late 60's and early 70's in Wales. Only about 3,000 were ever produced.
#I followed up on this by asking Horton what model crossbow they were referring to, and my message was forwarded to Bernard Horton himself who said it was called the Horton Monarch Supreme and was made in the late 60's and early 70's in Wales. Only about 3,000 were ever produced.
#However, in May of 2007 I contacted Mr. Horton again and referred him to the bowcaster reference images in this guide. He was convinced that the correct crossbow is not the Monarch Supreme but a skeleton-stocked, military-style crossbow that he made for the SinglePoint Company that was looking for a product to demonstrate their new scope.
#However, in May of 2007 I contacted Mr. Horton again and referred him to the bowcaster reference images in this guide. He was convinced that the correct crossbow is not the Monarch Supreme but a skeleton-stocked, military-style crossbow that he made for the SinglePoint Company that was looking for a product to demonstrate their new scope. It was die cast aluminum and nylon coated, and approximately 12,000 to 15,000 were produced in the early to mid 70's. Eventually, an offshoot of the SinglePoint Company called Gunmark was founded by Bjorn Waktare (a director of SinglePoint) and sold these crossbows to civilians, mostly in Europe. The crossbows were simply called "Gunmark Crossbows" according to Mr. Horton, and the company was based in Winchester, UK. [http://www.therpf.com/f9/bowcaster-parts-872/index7.html#post340659 Source 1], [http://www.therpf.com/f9/bowcaster-parts-872/index7.html#post354817 Source 2]


====The Barnett Commando Crossbow====
====The Barnett Commando Crossbow and the infamous Champagne Champion Crossbow====


#Before the discovery of the Horton Magnum and Magnum Safari crossbows, the Barnett Commando Crossbow was a popular base for bowcaster replicas. Randy5000 claimed he had a “secret contact” at Lucasfilm that told him the Bowcaster was based on a Barnett Commando Crossbow. While close, numerous fans, including kurtyboy, have determined that the Barnett is too large.
#Before the discovery of the Horton Magnum and Magnum Safari crossbows, the Barnett Commando Crossbow was a popular base for bowcaster replicas. Randy5000 claimed he had a “secret contact” at Lucasfilm that told him the Bowcaster was based on a Barnett Commando Crossbow. While close, numerous fans, including kurtyboy, have determined that the Barnett is too large.
#The Barnett was later used as the base crossbow for the [[Sequel Trilogy Bowcaster]].
==== The Champagne Champion Crossbow ====
#For years it was commonly claimed that the base crossbow was the "Champagne Champion Crossbow." In 2005, Macklin claimed that the source of the information was Jeff Ritzmann, a prop/costume guy and 501st member, with whom he spoke in 1999. According to Macklin, Mr. Ritzmann claimed to have done some research and not only discovered the basis of the crossbow, but also found one. However, over the years no one has found any evidence to support the existence of the Champagne Champion Crossbow or the company that made it. Macklin says that Ritzmann said it was "ultra rare."
#For years it was commonly claimed that the base crossbow was the "Champagne Champion Crossbow." In 2005, Macklin claimed that the source of the information was Jeff Ritzmann, a prop/costume guy and 501st member, with whom he spoke in 1999. According to Macklin, Mr. Ritzmann claimed to have done some research and not only discovered the basis of the crossbow, but also found one. However, over the years no one has found any evidence to support the existence of the Champagne Champion Crossbow or the company that made it. Macklin says that Ritzmann said it was "ultra rare."
#[https://www.therpf.com/forums/members/papermaker.211561/ Papermaker] speculates that the Horton Magnum did not sell particularly well when introduced, and ended up being wholesaled to any number of smaller retailers, who branded it as their own. Champagne may have been one such brand.


=== Scopes===
=== Scopes===
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#There are two large tapered discs on each side of the bowcaster. They are directly above the trigger and are in exactly the same spot on both sides. These discs are only on the ANH version, not on the Empire/Jedi version. According to kurtyboy, these are both pieces from a JA Michel turntable, either from a sweep arm or stylus brush, and are extremely hard to find.
#There are two large tapered discs on each side of the bowcaster. They are directly above the trigger and are in exactly the same spot on both sides. These discs are only on the ANH version, not on the Empire/Jedi version. According to kurtyboy, these are both pieces from a JA Michel turntable, either from a sweep arm or stylus brush, and are extremely hard to find.
#The trigger discs are fastened with a #10-32 flat pan head screw.
#The trigger discs are fastened with a #10-32 flat pan head screw.
#The trigger discs are 25mm in diameter, 4.1mm thick at the outer edge, and 6mm thick in the center.
#The trigger discs are 25mm in diameter, 3.8mm thick at the outer edge, and 5.2mm thick in the center.


==== Right Panel====
==== Right Panel====
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#According to trooper, the large coiled cord that runs around back of the scopes is an old headphone cord. The cable is 4.5mm in diameter and the coil is 14mm in diameter. Post in thread 'cancelled, Star wars anh chewbacca bowcaster run'  <nowiki>https://www.therpf.com/forums/threads/cancelled-star-wars-anh-chewbacca-bowcaster-run.288779/post-4550629</nowiki>
#According to trooper, the large coiled cord that runs around back of the scopes is an old headphone cord. The cable is 4.5mm in diameter and the coil is 14mm in diameter. Post in thread 'cancelled, Star wars anh chewbacca bowcaster run'  <nowiki>https://www.therpf.com/forums/threads/cancelled-star-wars-anh-chewbacca-bowcaster-run.288779/post-4550629</nowiki>


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==Materials & Construction Techniques==


===Scratch/Hardware Builds ===
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#[https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2402724 Thingverse: Single Point Scope.]
#[https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2402724 Thingverse: Single Point Scope.]
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